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Old 12-27-2021, 05:33 PM   #21
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Update: First payment bonus temporarily removed because some people already started to abuse it by creating level 1 accounts. We will restore it in some form after we will figure out how to prevent the abuse.
any update on this?
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Old 12-27-2021, 08:21 PM   #22
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any update on this?
It is not something that can be solved fast. Maybe in the future updates.
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Old 12-28-2021, 01:13 AM   #23
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It is not something that can be solved fast. Maybe in the future updates.
Ok but if it's only once per account (email) how can ppl abuse it by making lv1s? Also, trading is only after lv4 and only after lv10 can they buy items they don't use, so how exactly were ppl abusing that? Because for me it was the only reason that made me charge(would charge once in all accs most likely too)
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Old 12-28-2021, 10:57 AM   #24
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Ok but if it's only once per account (email) how can ppl abuse it by making lv1s? Also, trading is only after lv4 and only after lv10 can they buy items they don't use, so how exactly were ppl abusing that? Because for me it was the only reason that made me charge(would charge once in all accs most likely too)
I will not go in detail how they abused for obvious reasons, but in short, they have transferred items. The solution would be instead of giving +20k E, give a special package with 20k worth of non-transferable stuff like storage increase, double exp, resets, etc.
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Old 12-28-2021, 01:49 PM   #25
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I will not go in detail how they abused for obvious reasons, but in short, they have transferred items. The solution would be instead of giving +20k E, give a special package with 20k worth of non-transferable stuff like storage increase, double exp, resets, etc.
I see, isn't it possible to just punish ppl if they abuse it? I understand 20k worth items might seem good but for example for a lv10 20k is enough for a lot of games while winning double and storage isn't something they'd need at that lvl for example, it's sad this was removed because it was a really incentive reason for donating but I understand that ppl abused it in ways you didn't like but not possible to put in rules that abuse of this will results in ban so ppl don't do it?
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Old 12-28-2021, 02:25 PM   #26
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After 13 years of GUNROX, I don't believe in punishment. Better solution is to design the game the way it cannot be abused. We have been banning for a decade, but largest reduction in fakes happened when we have removed most ways to fake easily.
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Old 12-28-2021, 02:39 PM   #27
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After 13 years of GUNROX, I don't believe in punishment. Better solution is to design the game the way it cannot be abused. We have been banning for a decade, but largest reduction in fakes happened when we have removed most ways to fake easily.
Fair enough, guess we can't have nice things due to some ppl. Anyway thanks for explaining and thinking about it at least
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Old 12-29-2021, 09:22 AM   #28
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Fair enough, guess we can't have nice things due to some ppl. Anyway thanks for explaining and thinking about it at least
There will always be some, when I was a mod years ago banning 20+ times daily became the norm. The amount of players abusing the systems put in place, from awhile back, would make the game unplayable for others at times.

Redesigning the way things are done - rather than dealing out punishments will discourage people from finding tricky, less detectable ways to avoid getting caught. Faking became so deep that even a fake fight would look real until you counted how many action points they had left each turn among other things.

Part of the reason I was asked to step down; ban happy

In the end, the player base is what matters, retaining and growing it is just as important as having benefits for new players.

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