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Late
11-10-2008, 07:50 PM
One thing is bothering me. Seems to me that most of the online players have incredible high win/loss ratios, 3 or even higher. I can understand that if you are very well fitted and choose your fights well and only play when you are sure to win and are a very good player, you can get the ratio that high.

What I don't get is where are all the players with the ratio close to 1 or below it. I can understand some of the players that just keep losing get tired and stop playing, but still I think there should be way more people with win/lose ratios closer to 1. Anyone have any ideas where they are?

CoDeRs_KnOw
11-10-2008, 08:52 PM
it's simple,
if you lose again and again, you dont want to play
why?
1) nobody likes losing
2) no weapons to fight after losing again and again (more important)
that game's players r two group, players who use shop and the others (usually bad-stat players)
(we can shortly say a disbalanced game) (the answer of "where are players")
so normally game would start to lose bad-stat players, and it started.

suggestion part:
(i said before): some cash (of course really small amount) to all players regularly (i know it is easy to suggest and it is not easy to do it)
perhaps advertisements may be thought like most other online games

if you want to see more players, you need to make it more balanced

Dewdundency
11-10-2008, 09:37 PM
blah blah blah - say something we dont know...

Late
11-10-2008, 09:57 PM
Yeah well the game is hardcore, you lose the items you wear when you die, and this might be too harsh for people that are used to play games with small death penalty such as world of warcraft. Sure you can start a match with no gear but you wont be winning much like that.

So one option might be that the game could be changed so that death penalty would be smaller. Or some kind of compromise between them might be to enable fighting against NPCs, also known as grinding. Both of these changes would alter the current game quite a lot, and bring about a totally new world of work in form of balancing and campaign and map making. So a can of worms really and hard to say if it would make the game better or not, but I am sure that people love grinding so it would make the game more popular.

Oh and what I meant to say in the first post: I do understand that players who lose might stop playing, but I still can't believe so many of the active players have so high win/lose ratio, is all :)

NinjaZee
11-11-2008, 07:56 AM
Late: There are three different things which happen.
1. The "loosing" player creates a new account (and now knows the game better and get way better stats)
2. The loosing player leaves the game for good because he is tired of loosing.
3. He keeps on playing... And there is some of those, yesterday I saw a player with a ratio of approx 0.5 (with more than 300 played matches)

TheOne
11-11-2008, 08:12 AM
It's not that hard really. Getting my first acc to level 15 wasn't all that hard. Once you get to memorial, you can start stocking up weapons. A good idea is also to start a new acc, since you now know several good build-ups(hopefully) and can keep the account geared from memorial map with your higher level acc.

Late
11-11-2008, 08:30 AM
and can keep the account geared from memorial map with your higher level acc.

I dont think you should say so.

From rules, http://www.gunrox.com/guide/rules/ , The very first thing mentioned in there:

* Law-breaking with having multiple accounts

Playing both of your characters at the same time or any their interaction with each other.

TheOne
11-11-2008, 10:39 AM
I dont think you should say so.

From rules, http://www.gunrox.com/guide/rules/ , The very first thing mentioned in there:

* Law-breaking with having multiple accounts

Playing both of your characters at the same time or any their interaction with each other.

You give the items to a friend, then log in with your other acc?:confused:

Late
11-11-2008, 11:05 AM
You give the items to a friend, then log in with your other acc?:confused:

Sounds like interaction to me.

orestes
11-11-2008, 12:02 PM
loool, try to track it down:P law which cant be enforced is not a law

TheOne
11-11-2008, 12:08 PM
Sounds like interaction to me.

Get over yourself.

Late
11-11-2008, 01:23 PM
Ehm, I'm not a moderator or admin or anything, just tried to say to look out, is all.

xxxtornadoxxx
11-11-2008, 04:50 PM
nice update!

If you win 20 fights and have no loses nobody, wants to play with you.. and you must wait 30 min... 50 min... for one fight..

berserker
11-11-2008, 11:15 PM
Get over yourself.

Giving items to your friend so he will give to your other account is same as transfering between your accounts directly and is prohibited which will result in ban once we will see that.

TheOne
11-11-2008, 11:30 PM
Giving items to your friend so he will give to your other account is same as transfering between your accounts directly and is prohibited which will result in ban once we will see that.

Be serious. I could swear I saw a post of onetower saying he did the same. And seriously, are you purposefully trying to make people quit this game?

orestes
11-11-2008, 11:31 PM
i think that is technically not possible. there would be necesary two items:

1. list of players who have more than 1 account
2. all items should have list of nicknames (that they belong in past)

but what if person 1 (account a) give item to person 2 -> person 3 -> person 1 (account b) you will track it too? :D be rational :F

Karrir
11-12-2008, 07:44 AM
Hmmm...why not? Infidels must suffer, anyway.

ColdShot
12-01-2008, 12:43 AM
So if i have more item i can store, i can't create another acount to make it my "extra invetory"?

Why can? There Times when people have more itens thay can store so what will they do? Throw it away? If There is only good items?

And come someone "buy cash to make the inventory bigger" and if to me is really hard?

Beacause i can't buy Cash with my Coutry's Money isn't on the list? I'll buy it more expensive to the others?

I see two way out

1- Create another acount to be my "bank"

2- Ask For My Coutry's Money Be Acceoeted as another money to buy Enkord Cash...

I did both, BUT only the 1º worked right...

Late
12-01-2008, 01:08 AM
i can't buy Cash with my Coutry's Money isn't on the list? I'll buy it more expensive to the others?

I think you have understood something wrong here. It doesnt matter what currency you use to pay. Especially if you use paypal and or credit card.

berserker
12-01-2008, 07:47 AM
I see two way out

1- Create another acount to be my "bank"


http://www.gunrox.com/guide/rules/


Law-breaking with having multiple accounts

Playing both of your characters at the same time or any their interaction with each other.


You will be banned for using other character as storage because it's clearly against the rules

ColdShot
12-01-2008, 02:13 PM
You are right, i just want to ask you one thing... To avoid "bank's account", in the next update put bigger invetory... because yesterday i finished a battle (won of course) i had too many items, so i must trhow away some of them...

That wasn't easy, because i had good items...

ColdShot
12-01-2008, 02:14 PM
I think you have understood something wrong here. It doesnt matter what currency you use to pay. Especially if you use paypal and or credit card.

How I am going to use brazilian money to buy? There is no way!

berserker
12-01-2008, 02:33 PM
You are right, i just want to ask you one thing... To avoid "bank's account", in the next update put bigger invetory... because yesterday i finished a battle (won of course) i had too many items, so i must trhow away some of them...

That wasn't easy, because i had good items...

That's how this game works, throw items away or purchase bigger storage.

Red_Ranger
12-01-2008, 09:53 PM
lol wow, talk about off-topic

Anyways Late now that you cant see any ratios it doesnt matter really, but answer is really simple-
the players are devided into 2 groups- those who like the game, and those who dont like it that much.
those who like it get better through time, then create a new account because they want to win more and lose less basicly.
those who dont like it all that much arent very good usually, so they have bad ratios, but quit at lower levels and you dont see them (quit at 6-7)

oh, and theres a 3rd group inside the first 1, which is made up of players who love the game but either dont have time to create a new account, or arent clever enough to most games :P

Late
12-02-2008, 12:50 AM
How I am going to use brazilian money to buy? There is no way!

I'm not sure of other ways of payment, but I am sure of these two: if you have a credit card or if you register to paypal then you can pay with brazilian money I'm sure. In Paypal you can transfer your money to paypal with regular bank transfer and then pay stuff from there. (and it works in many other internet services too, for example ebay) Or if you have a credit card you can just put in your credit card info to the fields and it works like that. Or you can even register your credit card to paypal and that way it stays safe while you buy from different places in internet.