View Full Version : Lets analyzie these stats!
Eternity
10-21-2008, 05:58 AM
Ok, so here is an interesting case.
I present to you, sakura1881.
W - 172
L - 26
Units killed/Lost: 524/88
Damage taken/given: 93456/52554.
10 quits.
Now, as Dewdundency pointed out, it's the units killed/lost that really makes this a questionable case.
Basically, 26 games lost would mean she lost 78 units. That means, in her other 172 wins+10 quits(not sure how to analyzie quits), she lost a total of 10 units!!!!
Now, I don't know about you, but I don't think even the best of the best can only lose 10 units in over 172 games. What do you guys think?
Dewdundency
10-21-2008, 06:52 AM
I think its none of my business lol.
Two realistic possibilities are:
stopped playing unwinnable games to play surefire games...
or maybe plays a lot of 2v2 with a friend who is kinda of her meatshield...
I dare not entertain the possibility of fake fighting, all people are innocent until proven guilty!
Dew
Eternity
10-21-2008, 06:57 AM
I think its none of my business lol.
Two realistic possibilities are:
stopped playing unwinnable games to play surefire games...
or maybe plays a lot of 2v2 with a friend who is kinda of her meatshield...
I dare not entertain the possibility of fake fighting, all people are innocent until proven guilty!
Dew
This ain't no court of law, in here, we are jury, judge, and executioner!!!
But if you multiply games wonX3, you get a number which is very close to her total of units killed, which makes me believe she played only little 2 vs 2 games.
However, she does use encord cash, so it's possible she is equipped with the best every game.
Karrir
10-21-2008, 07:27 AM
Btw, quits are already included in loses count. So 10 out of his (her? bah, womens in MMO are tale for youngsters) 26 loses were quits.And damage taken/given ratio, though pretty good, ain't impossible to acquire when fighting fair.
Eternity
10-21-2008, 08:28 AM
The damage ratio is definitely possible, it's the unit one I'm more interested about. Just seems to me that losing 10 units in 172 games is incredible, bordering on the unbelievable. You'd have to be playing wayyyyyy below your league to be able to win with losing only 1 unit every 17 matches.
Karrir
10-21-2008, 08:58 AM
On lower levels you just need some skill to defeat your opponents without loses. But then... combination of top-notch equipment, choosing the weakest enemy possible and using your teammate as meatshield might do the work. That's completely unfun, though...
kyle_jameson
10-21-2008, 09:03 AM
now that is a tough player but that is weird:confused:
onetower
10-21-2008, 11:21 AM
Ok, so here is an interesting case.
I present to you, sakura1881.
W - 172
L - 26
Units killed/Lost: 524/88
Damage taken/given: 93456/52554.
10 quits.
Now, as Dewdundency pointed out, it's the units killed/lost that really makes this a questionable case.
Basically, 26 games lost would mean she lost 78 units. That means, in her other 172 wins+10 quits(not sure how to analyzie quits), she lost a total of 10 units!!!!
Now, I don't know about you, but I don't think even the best of the best can only lose 10 units in over 172 games. What do you guys think?
mentioned above, was banished today...
Eternity
10-21-2008, 11:41 AM
On lower levels you just need some skill to defeat your opponents without loses. But then... combination of top-notch equipment, choosing the weakest enemy possible and using your teammate as meatshield might do the work. That's completely unfun, though...
Absolutely agree. Where is the fun when there is no challenge? sure, you might lose quite a few when challenging really good/higher level players, but it's also worth it, when you finally beat one:)
Dewdundency
10-21-2008, 09:11 PM
As clan leader, I would like to know the reasoning of this banning. It is not a subject to be taken lightly. I need to know if Sakura1881 needs to be removed from my clan... Send me a private message pls.
Eternity
10-22-2008, 08:06 AM
Here is an even more interesting case:
coninho_mhe(lvl 14)
W/L: 256/52
Units killed/lost: 769/163
That basically means that after we subtruct his loses(52x3=156)
it means he lost a total of 7 units in 256 games!!!!!
I sometimes see notifications in chat window about people being banned for 48h for fake fighting. Is that all the punishment you get from fake fighting? I think it would be appropriate if fake fighters would get some kind of mark on their profiles, similar to deserter.
luke1976
10-22-2008, 10:57 AM
I sometimes see notifications in chat window about people being banned for 48h for fake fighting. Is that all the punishment you get from fake fighting? I think it would be appropriate if fake fighters would get some kind of mark on their profiles, similar to deserter.
they get caught a few times they get banned for good:D:D
Dewdundency
10-22-2008, 12:53 PM
quit analyzing my clan! :)
NoNamer
10-22-2008, 01:14 PM
Stop recruiting fake fighters/lame fighters then
onetower
10-22-2008, 04:52 PM
Stop recruiting fake fighters/lame fighters then
its not your duty to judge who is fake, so keep the work for admins/mods...
Dewdundency
10-22-2008, 09:15 PM
Sakura1881 has been removed from my clan
piahoo
10-22-2008, 10:59 PM
its not your duty to judge who is fake, so keep the work for admins/mods...
arent you moving too far? or he has no right to have an opinion? you changed a bit recently;p it conniforms Stanford prison experiment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment) :p
NinjaZee
10-26-2008, 11:07 AM
I saw one of these cases yesterday, which made me wonder...
Name: PoTter
Level: 7
Won: 22
Lost: 9
Units killed: 84
Units lost: 26
The weird thing here is that he has lost 9 matches, without quitting any. And as he is level 7 he hasn't had access to KOTH. So AFAIK he could only loss those 9 matches by having all 3 units killed... 9 x 3 = 27. So even if we don't look at the wins he has to few unit losses, so he have lost -1 units in the 22 wins.
Anyone who can figure out how this can happen?
michielh3
10-26-2008, 12:38 PM
Wow that is pretty weird indeed .. and no quitting ..
Perhaps a DisConection also gets counted different ?
berserker
10-26-2008, 05:16 PM
Quit counter is shown only if you have more than 5 quits
a lot of weird things going on here but i havnt quit once
NinjaZee
10-27-2008, 08:59 AM
Quit counter is shown only if you have more than 5 quits
Okay, so the case I presented is indeed possible if some of his looses is actually quits, where maybe 1 or none of his units was killed.
MegaWar
12-02-2008, 02:25 AM
Here is an even more interesting case:
coninho_mhe(lvl 14)
W/L: 256/52
Units killed/lost: 769/163
That basically means that after we subtruct his loses(52x3=156)
it means he lost a total of 7 units in 256 games!!!!!
Does not matter how many you've killed and lost. the most important thing is how many games you have played and what is your level now
for example: Mercenary (lvl 23)
W/L 184/37
Units killed/lost: 603/183
Dewdundency
12-02-2008, 03:07 AM
this can be done with double xp - not necessarily lopsided fake fighting...
MegaWar
12-02-2008, 02:25 PM
did not use cash at all
OverDose
08-19-2010, 09:56 PM
dudes you have totally forgotten about beginners quarters. ive seen people come out of there with a sgt. rank 250 wins / o loss. but not soon after they have to play these other maps do you start to see where the stats end and the player begins.
KeepLive
08-19-2010, 10:12 PM
ofcourse he can, In my video u say failstyle his stats:
http://www.gunrox.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5512
That is like the same :confused:
--_Dr_Paulo_--
08-19-2010, 10:22 PM
dudes you have totally forgotten about beginners quarters. ive seen people come out of there with a sgt. rank 250 wins / o loss. but not soon after they have to play these other maps do you start to see where the stats end and the player begins.
haha:D
i saw a lv l1 with rank staff sergeant kkkkkkkkkkkkk i asked 1x1 he was totatly noob :D
(and of course it was on other acc :))
Ocelote
08-19-2010, 10:50 PM
i saw a lvl 6 with major rank lollllllll
:D
VanHellsing
08-20-2010, 04:49 PM
Necromancy is prohibited on foruns...
Leave them rest in peace.
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